America is fucked.
I hate to say it, but racism in the US is here to stay. While noble, the dreams of a post-racial, egalitarian society where blacks and whites live in harmony are a liberal fantasy. In reality, the numbers just don’t add up.
Some people blame IQ, some people blame history, but coming from Europe I call BS. I believe the main reason for this is social mobility.
In Europe, the best universities are state schools (the UK being a notable exception). Furthermore, the government soaks up the costs of tuition fees. When I attended university in Ireland, all undergrads were practically free, for example. While in Scandinavia, they even pay you to go to university. In fact, only dumb kids are forced to pay for private schools!
Under the European system, no matter how rich or poor your family was, everybody has an equal opportunity when it comes to getting an education. It’s a system based on merit, not the money in Daddy’s bank account—there is high social mobility.
However, in America, it’s the opposite. The best schools are private. Dumb rich kids can buy their way into good schools, whereas smarter, poorer kids options are limited. And not only are state schools lower-ranked, but they aren’t cheap either. After all, when you spend hundreds of billions of dollars on the military (accounting for 40%+ of the global spending), properly subsidizing third level education is virtually impossible.
Therefore, the American educational structure creates systematic classism.
In other words, there is almost no social mobility.
The thing is, it’s not only race that continues to divide people in America, but it’s also class. The problem is the two go hand-in-hand as the majority of blacks come from lower classes.
So what happens when you combine lack of education, poverty, and a historical context of slavery and institutional racism?
You get ignorance, high crime rates, and—you guessed it—a shit ton of prejudice and racism on both sides.
And nothing is going to change. The inequitable education system will remain, and the gap between the classes will continue to widen.
Those are the facts written in black and white.
As I said, America is fucked.
You must enjoy affirmative action a lot then…
What about HBD, differences in iq per ethnic group and all that?
Saying that racism has nothing to do with races but only with social classes is a bit simplistic
Racism all over Europe where higher education is public and free is growing every day. And mass immigration and population replacement are also increasing…
pfft mass imingration is higher in canada uae and qatar and its a none issue. Europe doesnt know what they are doing. They like to talk trash but cry every time they get punched.
if whites are so smart how come they got out smarted by a few jews,killed religon brought feminism to their women and killed their feritility rates which is basically is a silent holocaust for them.
The west is currently in decline, we cant rely on smart soviet defectors forever. They are gonna die eventually. And no way are we gonna see new tech being built by a local anymore, most of silicon valley start ups are done by foreigners. We just have the money since we are mindless spenders.
I have constantly been berated for being white and how I owe a huge debt to minorities for dscrimination that happened before I was born. I keep being told how guilty I am supposed to feel. Screw that, I’m sick of it! I’m ready to cut off the supply of free money and let minorities find their own salvation, I no longer consider it my problem.
no one cares about your feelings. Its about making amends. SInce all the good things you enjoy happened before you were born. Its really a spoiled 1st world rich boy problem, “i have a good life thanx to my ancestors but the guys he fucked over make me feel bad”.
feel upset all you want but you would never want to switch places with them
Exactly why do you think you are entitled to anything in the first place? Please explain to everyone why the hell you are entitled to a free ride because your ancestors were a bunch of primitive savages who were so incapable of developing civilization? They were lucky enough to be put onto a ship and sent halfway around the world, to what is nothing short of paradise compared to the hell holes that your ancestors were originally from.
Its absurd to think how many minorities continue to believe that whites are going to be guilted into this crap for an eternity. Patience is wearing thin, and the only support you have are weak whites who dominate academia and the media.
We are all getting fed up with things and things are going to reach breaking point. Its unsustainable to think that society can be propped up on white shoulders while parasitic minorities enjoy a free ride.
Fuck anyone who calls us racist. Western countries are the most tolerant in the world and we get spat on by the waves of third world savages who take for granted the tolerance we show when we let the scum into our countries.
The clock is ticking, and the ghost of hitler is eroding rapidly. You will never be our equals, you are fucking incapable of it. Deep down you know this, its why you resent us so. Trying to civilize savages was a waste of time.
so let me get this straight, the jews are entitled to mass compensation in regards to the holocaust but black people are not in regards to slavery?
to be honest, your comment reeks of ignorance and a lack of knowledge. we will never be your equals? im not sure about you but i judge a man on his skills and character, not on his race. however if you want to judge a man on the merits of his ancestors, my ancestors built ancient egypt. your ancestors ransacked and basically copy and pasted the knowledge of my ancestors…… civilization? we invented civilisation!
you should go and study before you make comments like this. also if you are talking about a parasitic race, have a look on forbes. there are around 7 billionaires in south africa and only one of those is black. you invade our countries and steal our wealth then you have the audacity to resent migration when it is the other way. haha just had to laugh at the never be our equals part one more time, im better than you in every way
You’re right that no one should care about our feelings, but then why the fuck should we care about your feelings or making amends?
You are right it’s a 1st world problem, people all around the world have asshole ancestors who killed innocent people but most of the world doesn’t pay much attention to those facts or doesn’t care about them. I’m with those folks.
UVA and Berkeley are examples of excellent state universities. There are many more.
Blacks who a) graduate high school b) don’t get arrested c) hold a full time job d) wait until age 23 to have kids and get married have about the same outcome as white people. Too many can’t even manage to get that far.
there’s a major problem with your “b” and “c” … laws are constantly shifted to catch more and more young black people. furthermore, interview discrimination is real. and no, overall the same outcome doesn’t happen because career discrimination is real.
all of which you would know if … oh, you were black or raised in largely-black areas.
and, god, let’s even talk about “a” and the school-to-prison pipeline.
you wrote this without really thinking didn’t you?
The above two posts prove the Nomad’s post correct.
“Ethnic IQ”
“If…. if…. if… then about (!) teh same income”
Guys, a German knows racism when he sees it (yes, we were really good at this some time ago)
totally like Ive met some white guys that were born here and some of them are just dumb as fuck. LIke Ive met villagers with more sense from poor countrys. Hell and soft as hell, doesnt take much to upset them and youll meet with people from africa and middle east that had it worse and mentally they are cool like it aint shit. Plus no sense of accountabilty here. We blame everyone but ourselves,thanx to a feminist you are specail culture as opposed to them whom always have themselves to blame.
these comments are completely ignorant and everyone knows you cant argue with ignorance. the results of an experiment which had been completed in the usa shows that white people are 80% more likely to get a job compared to black, hispanic or asian people. they handed in identical curriculum vitae’s to various places to business. the only thing they did was change the names. the cv’s with white sounding names were found to be 80% more likely to get a call back. this is racism whether you like it or not. it has nothing to do with that b.s about graduate high school, not get arrested and not have kids. that is an ignorant statement. also if you are happy to live in a society like this, and are fed up of trying to make a change via monetary support etc.i consider you to be even worse, a man that can turn a blind eye to injustice is not a man at all!!!
All your word amount to is admitting blacks (and certain others) are less capable than whites of building and maintaining an advanced society. It is begging whites (and certain others) for jobs because blacks are not capable of generating much wealth themselves. If they are our equals they should be able to roughly reproduce what we have done. They cannot, and that’s why they cling to whites in the face of alleged “racism.” The goofy idea being pushed here is that blacks would rather suffer “oppression” from whites than separate themselves and live in prosperity, FOR SOME UNKNOWN REASON. Black average income is several times what it would be if they had their own country and that is due only to whites, and when they desperately try to get into Europe, when they refuse to separate themselves within the United States, that is to say when they vote with their feet, they admit this.
less capable than whites of building an advanced society? this is the most ignorant statement i have heard all week. have you never heard of the Egyptians. for your information the ancient (ancient, not modern) egyptians were black. tutunkamun was from the ugandan tribe, if you have never heard of uganda then look it up, they are as dark as comes. these ancient black civilisations were destroyed by white people. your ancestors. wealth and knowledge was stolen to give you the life you have now. there are 20+ billionaires in africa and only 5 of them are black. so before you write any bullshit like this again. do your research, go on forbes, go to a museum, hell read a book. the richest man to ever have been recorded living is mansa musa a black man that died in 1311. he is valued at being richer than the entire rothschild family or anyone else for that matter. however yet again his wealth was stolen by your ancestors, and you have the uneducated audacity to come and say we need to reproduce what white people have done, that we are less capable of building and maintaining a society. please mate go back to school and re-educate yourself.
No this is the most ignorant statement i’ve read, the ancient Egyptians were not black, they were a Caucasian people, similar to modern day Berbers ethnically. Tutankhamen wasn’t from a Ugandan tribe, he was Egyptian. Some of the later Pharaohs were black African of course, as the Nubian civilization conquered and occupied Egypt for many years.
Ancient black civilizations were not destroyed by white people, you really need to learn more about the history of our world.
North Africa has never been domianted by black Africans, its always been occupied mainly by Caucasians.
the resume thing was true, they did it in sweden and in canada and did see the bias.
barbados and bahamas are currently on their way to be 1st world naitons, though africa its self will take longer.
Much of white succession were in part thanx to many jewish thinkers that passed on their knowledge. And Jews are known to have the highest iq among hbders. Which often doesnt get menitioned considering its probably these people responsible for ruining white culture in a mere 60 years. NOw its a circle jerk to feel good about being better then blacks yet bash asians for being smaller and weaker.
If it werent for those jewish thinkers and those arab caliphates that later laid the ground work for the reinaceance, whites would still go through the dark ages(though dark ages isnt as bad as leftists say it is)
I don’t know about Latinos and American Blacks, but there is a lot of social mobility in the US for talented, smart middle-class folk from foreign third-world countries. Thousands of highly qualified Indian doctors and software engineers – who come from middle class backgrounds – who make a great living in the US. Of course, there are also the gas attendants and 7/11 clerks, but there are two sides to every group. And India has a far worse education system in every respect than US, so I think cultural priorities have a lot to do with it too – blacks from low-income groups in US dream of becoming rappers and basketball players, in India poor kids dream of getting into universities and become a successful white-collar professional, and their parents sacrifice their lives for it.
keep in mind many of these doctors wind up driving a cab for a bit before they can even practice thier professions since their degrees arent recognized there.
Nothing wrong with a rising deficit,read some Mike Norman or Stephanie Kelton or Warren Mosler.
-yeh we need public tertiary education
-we need affordable rents kept low
-wages need to be protected through unions
-Banks are un productive economic leaches,the financial system needs radical reform.
Sounds like the place is suffering from endemic classism rather than overt racism.
Ask the thousands of homeless back home if they appreciate N.O.M.A hoarding thousands of properties to support higher prices and keep the banks happy.As well as the pointless bailout of the banks and troika austerity, water utility privatisation and rising unemployment and an explosion in homelessness.Ireland is fucked and that’s a fact in green and white
Mark, you’ve dated a lot of black chicks. Can you do some posts on black girls and game. I’m sure you’d need to do several posts because I’m sure a Kenyan is very different from an American black vs an Irish black girl. I could really benefit from some good info. I’m very weak in this area.
its a good post nn. Usually in the manosphere its always saying whites have it harder(basically free speech being abuse to piss off people) and minorities have it eaiser and down play any discrimination. Basically they want to live like kings from wealth they hadnt earned and not here any criitism whats so ever.
kinda reminds you of white feminists. white women the most privladged class but yet found a away to be the victim
Don’t you think you should stick to writing about wearing a Mexican hat and banging foreign women? What you wrote was the most asinine nonsense I’ve read in awhile.
I love the graph you invented hahaha
it wasn’t asinine, it made a lot of sense.
http://naughtynomad.com/2015/03/24/wanna-look-badass-this-summer/#comment-80283
@Starlily: I’ll answer your question in a blog post.
As a black Amarican who has done a fair bit of traveling, i couldnt disagree more. Sounds like a typical non American response to a uniquely American problem.
Just like any outsiders opinion of a differnt culture, you lack true insight into the American experience. For one, the idea of “classism” just doesnt exist here. Sure there are “elitist” but they exist in a isolated enclave so far temoved from the general population that they are pretty much nullified.
When it comes to social mobility there is almost no other country where one can literally start from nothing and end up running a fucking country. Thats an American trait.
Its not about color. As stated before imigrants come here all the time and 90% (my bs stat by the way) do just fine. They end up owning business, practicing law, being doctors, engineers and etc.
So why do native blacks and hispanics seem to fare worse (never mind all the looser whites)? Because we have fosterd a liberal culture of depedentcy. For political reasons we have a large portion of the GOV that encourages and perpetuates victemhood, entitlement, and responsibility avoidance.
We also have a media that is dominated by people with a predominatly liberal slant. Therefore EVERY story or situation is painted as racist, prejudice, or some type of social, or sexual injustice. Like the Mike Brown case – dude was on camera robbing a store, yet it was reported this had nothing to do with his subsequent death.
You are right. America Is fucked when it comes to racism. Especially when everyyone refuses to acknowldge the true reasons for many of the stereotypes that keep it alive. Like the fact that Blacks are the greatest killer of other Blacks by far. Or how irrisponsible poor parents are why poor kids do poorly in school, not the lack of school district money or classism, racism, and etc.
America (and the rest of the world for that matter) are fucked because people refuse to look at the facts and would rather fall back on consiracies, flawed fweel good logic, and in most cases, just plain ignorance when it comes to dealing with social and racial issues.
Racism is horrible. Horrible horrible horrible. I actually read comments from some people saying that only white men can be racists and that is the definition of racism. That is of course not true. The people who say that are ignorant and uneducated. Period. I am a white male and I have been the subject of racism many times in my life. Of course not as many times or even daily as ..let’s take for example the roman beggars in the streets here.
Fuck racism!! From the bottom of my heart fuck racism and racist!!
Some of my best friends are from other countries, other cultures, other colours. I just love diversity and difference. It really makes life so much more fun and interesting!
I guess that a lot of the racist problem lies in the fact that most people on the planet don’t travel, can’t afford it. There are other explanations of course, but I think that is the most important one. The next is that yes 🙂 western people, there are a lot, a whole lot of poor people on this planet struggling to be able to afford food for their child or children just for the day. Why on earth do some people look down on them like they are inferior? Did you read up on different countries, their politicians are often incredibly corrupt! Most people actually want to stay where they were born! Yeah! Fucking surprise!!! They do. They just want that place to be Fucking decent place to live! And let’s face it, most places on earth are not due to corrupt politicians.
So next time you feel a racist thought entering your mind go to the trusty internet and read up on some real world thing.
For example I recently read the article on the African slave trade on Wikipedia. It was a damn good read. And I ask myself why the hell was that not taught in my school growing up!?
America is well on its way to becoming the same nightmare Germany was in 1933-1945 because when good progressive people win battles in getting civil rights for BOTH minority group people and WOMEN the right wing scum bags like SARAH BASTARD PALIN and the KOCH brothers and Sheldon. Scum Bag Adelson and the whole GOP poison everything with their vicious BACKLASH against democracy!