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Sex for Sport: Is Collecting “Flags” Unhealthy?

Some of you might remember The Tale of Wandering Colin. I met him in Kingston, Jamaica. Afterwards, he checked out this site. Like many social justice types who visit here, Colin wasn’t impressed. Read below.

Dear Mark,

 

…We met at the hostel in Kingston a few months back and spoke a little. A while later I checked your website.

 

To be totally honest I was quite saddened. I felt that the vast majority of the content was, for want of a better word, ignorant and negative. And promoting having sex with loose women around the world and seeing them as flags or notches that you collect and that this was the greatest reason and thing to achieve when travelling.

 

…I feel guys who are obsessed with sex should just stay where they come from and not travel around the world with Viagra eyes, solely focused on trying to fuck a different woman in each place that they go and not being aware or respectful of other cultures or realizing all of the other wonderful things they could learn and experience when travelling.

 

…I’m presuming that a lot of the guys that follow your website, if there were invited into a family’s house and there were women about, in the back of their mind they’d be planning how to sleep with the guys daughter, wife or both at the same time to have an ‘awesome’ story to share on the web or down the pub with other like-minded pricks. Not appreciating that someone is actually trusting you and trying to show you a bit of their life that is different from yours and you could learn something from.

 

…You are clearly a talented, ambitious, and hard-working guy, I just felt your efforts were going to waste and even helping to create more negativity.

Peace & love from Charlotteville, Tobago……Colin

The irksome, moralizing tone of the email stalled my reply, but I’ve reflected on it since and I’m going to answer Colin now. Before I get to the flag collecting, there’s a few other points I’d like to discuss.

 

Truth Trumps Feelings here.

truthFirstly, I would say this site is the opposite from ‘ignorant’. This site aims to educate men and deals with cold truths—unlike the majority of politically correct rubbish out there. If that seems ‘negative’ to you and others, so be it. I’ve always encouraged men to learn the local language and experience all a country has to offer, but there’s a million feel-good bullshit travel sites for that. But if guys know if they want to get laid or get high, there’s Naughty Nomad.
Moving on.

 

When it comes to sex, screw moral relativity.

As for Colin’s family home scenario, I’m sure there are men out there so unscrupulous that they would probably try to fuck the man’s wife, but I’m not one of them. Nor is anybody I associate with. But c’mon, Colin, the daughter is fair game! What if she was, like, super hot? She’s probably in her room flicking the bean over this handsome stranger who has come to stay.

 

The absolute best way to get intimate with another culture is by sleeping with the local women. I’m not saying you take pictures and high-five her dad afterwards, but if it’s discrete and consensual (I’m thinking a ‘nature walk’), it’s win-win! There’s nothing wrong with sexual desire and seeing women as women. Fuck ‘respecting culture’ or locals law. Sex is sex and I’ve left smiles from Oman to Oslo.

 

Is Collecting Flags Unhealthy?

It depends. Personally, I’ve never traveled for the sole purpose of “getting a flag” by sleeping with a local. I don’t encourage others to do so, either. If that’s somebody’s only reason for travelling, I think that’s pathetic and most certainly unhealthy. My goal is to travel every country in the world. Sex just comes with the territory.

 

0911-ss-passport-01Did I objectify women as merely flags along the way?

 

Hell, yes. I was practically the spokesperson for ‘flagging’ at one point. In the past, I’ve even turned down women who were 8s to go for 6s just because they were new flags!

 

During the mid-twenties, my flag count skyrocketed. I’d hit new milestones every year… 40, 50, 60. At first, this felt good. I had the approval of my peers. I earned a reputation, status, and even a small degree of fame from men the world over.

 

At the age of 26, I was at the top of my game and reached mastery, but eventually, I felt the need to retire.

 

There is no prize for this competition.

 

Like many men who count ‘notches’ or ‘lays’, I started to get little satisfaction from a new flag. It no longer sated my ego or brought happiness. It didn’t fill the void I hoped it would.

 

Like so many young men of my generation, I grew up thinking the best way to express my masculinity was through sport-fucking and sexual conquest. And like it or not, this kind of behavior actually gains respect among the men of today—many of whom could only fantasize about such a lifestyle. With no wars to fight or food to hunt, there’s not much else to do but play being men. Some play football, some play video games, and some play the mating game.

 

After reading The Way of Men, I finally released there was a little more to being a man than sport-fucking. I matured a little. I gave up counting. Last year, I only slept with one new nationality and I couldn’t care less. I’ve yielded greater well-being from developing long-term relationships.

 

That said…

 

download (7)I believe that every young man needs to go through a period of sexual rampage to realize that pussy isn’t everything.

 

Counting flags and notches is a natural by-product of that. Men tend to gamify and systematize.  And I actually believe it is one of many paths to self-actualization, and being a higher primate in the end.

 

If a man refuses to do this because of ideology,or he simply lacks the skills to do so, I believe he will never be fully content in later relationships and always be wondering ‘what if’.

 

So flag away, lads! It’s harmless fun, I say.

 

Just be aware that your sex life is not a deposit account and won’t bring you happiness further down the line.

20 Responses to Sex for Sport: Is Collecting “Flags” Unhealthy?

  1. george strong May 29, 2015 at 8:14 pm #

    Colin from Charlotteville is a white knight mangina, our enemy as much as feminists and leftists. They are all sick and evil.

  2. splooge May 30, 2015 at 12:05 am #

    well I dont see flagging as important, Id rather just take the hotter one then the novelty which to me makes more sense. Its a pointless endeavor.

    Fair game for the daughter of the man you consider a friend, thats rather disrespectful,if the dad or bros catch you its on you if they whoop your ass.

    Its good to go on a pussy rampage to get that dog dick heat off, but you dont want to go ruin good chaste women in conservative culture and open that pandoras box like here in the west.

    But thats where puas and neomasculinity differs. One will take everything like a vulture the other protects certain perseveres and hunt in certain spots. One is good for short term self pleasure the other for long term success for society.

    The game should be used on slutty girls and girls from liberal nations and cultures like the west or SEA. But good chaste girls or conservative like those muslim, indian,middle east or other nations should be left be and not get infected by players and feminists. Its easy to make good girls go bad but not the other way around.

    • Lovr May 30, 2015 at 3:12 am #

      Good statement, unless the last part which is- to be honest- total bullshit, because it’s soo far away from reality. Get some more experience, then you will understand.

      • Lovr May 30, 2015 at 3:16 am #

        Reality is: Women aaaaalllllllll around the world. They like sex at least the same amount as men do.
        Often they like it even much much more than men. Have only sex, sex, sex in their brains and nothing else. Transferred in romanticism, disney -or hollywood- like fantasies. But in the end this all leads to: Sex. Love. Rock’n Roll.

        • splooge June 12, 2015 at 9:16 pm #

          I never implied that those conservatives, dont like or think about sex, but they will feel shame when acting immorally. Sure there are shy ones. But thats the main thing that they are not impulsive and act out those desires. In a sense they can logic their feelings and impulses for long term gain then short term pleasure.

          But when you make it the norm, like here in the west, then the genie aint going back in the bottle.
          Those places are delicate ecosystems and any foreign predator(feminists,western media and puas) will kill them.

        • splooge June 12, 2015 at 9:19 pm #

          I never implied that those conservatives, dont like or think about sex, but they will feel shame when acting immorally. Sure there are shy ones. But thats the main thing that they are not impulsive and act out those desires. In a sense they can logic their feelings and impulses for long term gain then short term pleasure.

          But when you make it the norm, like here in the west, then the genie aint going back in the bottle.
          Those places are delicate ecosystems and any foreign predators(feminists,western media and puas) will kill them.

          game should be used responsibly, we cant hunt recklessly like the buffalo or the dodo.

  3. Lovr May 30, 2015 at 3:24 am #

    Good article! Yeah show them. Fucking hyppocrites. If they had the opportunity they would just do the same.

    What is better, spreading love and peace or running around jealous, hiding that behind “morality””religion”and so on. Getting angry all about the bad bad world and getting vengeance in some way.

  4. Starlily May 30, 2015 at 11:15 am #

    at least you’re not Roosh.

  5. Mateusz Bamski May 30, 2015 at 1:34 pm #

    Sadly I understand your case because I was seriously criticised in similar aspect. Few of my so-called friends found it arrogant, obscene and freckles to travel and have affairs with local women… but wait a second, isn’t sex a most natural thing between man and woman? Why I should be banished for saying obvious and TRUE things.

    I will bring you my case… I have been in Philippines where I met amazing girl. I don’t even mention her body but overall she was warm, honest, caring person and I truly enjoy this what happened between us. Even now after few years I texted her back and she admit that beside we are so far away and maybe never going to be together again she is glad to met me. In contrast for that… few comments on facebook appeared describing me as “demonic sex-tourist” who is ABUSING these innocent, little, poor, uneducated, underprivileged girls and all I want to do is to grab attention and used them to satisfy my ego.

    What the fuck?… I don’t get that. Frankly speaking… is there any man on planet Earth who has never wonder about paradise where women are hot, FEMININE and friendly and things getting easier as in “real” world. I think everyone has dreamt about going to tropical island and having affair under the Sun with local, exotic hottie.

    There is huge group of male backpackers who I know and they never ever got into ANY relationship abroad. It’s kind of awkward and I would say even unnatural. Personally (as I am Caucasian guy) I can’t imagine how you can land in middle of Brazil /Central America/Western Africa and don’t even date a girl for a coffee.

    Despite of my personal experiences… Almost every time meeting local girl would be perfect way to understand culture.

    I also agree with Nomad that getting flags wont make you happy after a while, so sex-life. Our existence is probably about something much more meaningful.

    • max May 30, 2015 at 4:03 pm #

      Mateusz

      Most people will not understand, as they have been conditioned to think in very narrow fashion and their view is obstructed or in another words they were brainwashed.

      It is like Plato’s “Allegory of the Cave”. I do not bother anymore speaking or trying to show them different perspective of life.

  6. Max May 30, 2015 at 3:50 pm #

    Good post Mark.

    The society tends to be punitive to humanity and to nature.

    Interesting people that had and continue to have influence on me is Alan Watts and Terence McKenna. I would recommend for anyone to listen (You can listen to them on youtube.)

    Too bad that they not here any more.

  7. Starlily May 30, 2015 at 9:42 pm #

    Honestly, I may not agree with everything you write, but if someone wants to sleep with different people, as long as it’s between consenting adults, I don’t see any problem with that. it’s not the sex in the “PUA/manosphere,” that I have a problem with, it’s the meanness that I have a problem with. It’s racist/misogynistic ideas that I have a problem with. A man enjoying sex with various women in itself is not sexist. If the woman is enjoying it as well, nothing wrong with that.

    I don’t think NN you should have to apologize for sleeping with a variety of women, as long as they enjoyed it and you were respectful in how you did it, nothing wrong with that.

    TBH, I know I’ve not yet had intercourse and don’t plan to unless i’m married, but that doesn’t mean I’m devoid of sexual desire. I’d never tell a man I met in person this, but…for some reason…there’s part of me that longs to be conquested by man. I can’t explain it because my mind is one way, but my body is another. That look that men give you…that on the one hand offends me so…but when you know they want you…it’s a primitive, primal look in their eye, it frightens me. But, it’s that penetrative glance that exposes my most intimate longings that I hide so well that leaves me with a desire to touch my body. I pushed men away and I am cold, but my body is the exact opposite. outside, i’m cold,reticent and conservative, but actually my body is soft and warm and waiting to be opened up. Waiting for that delicious vulnerability that a man can make you feel. There’s part of me that just want to be a conquest, I want to be completely opened up and my body radiates with the desire to be filled up. sometimes I think that’s part of my sadness, is I can’t experience my humanness…I close myself off and pack on layers of pounds and in some ways it makes me feel safe, but in others it makes me sad… it must be nice to be able to be so free, sexually.

  8. flaghunter June 1, 2015 at 6:20 pm #

    How many flags are you on now NN, 65?
    And you mentioned JJ Roberts has the most flags of anybody you know, how many is it?

    • Mark Zolo June 4, 2015 at 2:00 pm #

      Yeah.. 65 I think. JJ is in the 80s I believe.

  9. djake June 2, 2015 at 9:18 am #

    If you can, you do.
    Just before you become old and monogamous

  10. Ali S June 4, 2015 at 12:47 am #

    Nothing wrong with getting laid with foreign, exotic women if you do it responsibly, but extensively detailing and broadcasting it to a community of wannabe sex tourists and the whole ‘flag conquest’ gimmick reeks of insecurity and is quite frankly unmasculine. Colin has a point

    And most of the online manosphere’s grip on evolutionary biology (to ostensibly justify their behavior as normal) is also very pulpy and romanticized.

  11. Zack August 29, 2016 at 7:54 pm #

    Great write up. Very true. Personally I stopped counting when I was quite young because of the advice from a friend’s older brother. He told me never to count my notches because that way when I had a girlfriend later on in life, I wouldn’t have to lie when she asked me, I would just say that I didn’t know. I’m not sure if this is a good reason or not but I took it to heart and consciously stopped counting and eventually lost track all together. I have no idea the exact number of women I’ve slept with. Like you said, racking up notches does not lead to happiness, but it does earn the respect of your peers. At one point, I really believed that the number of women a guy had slept with equated to how cool he was. Not true at all, but if I had not gone on my own “pussy rampage” I never would have made this discovery. Also, it pays to be killer in the sack, especially for your future relationship. And you’re right, we learn so much from women. Women have gotten me into the most interesting situations in my life and inspired me to learn new languages and absorb cultures. You’re right, every man should go on his own pussy rampage, but he should know that it is just part of the journey and not the end destination.

  12. Pus E Feelgood September 3, 2016 at 4:13 pm #

    Bro the US has been at war since 2001, practically all of your life. Millions of people still hunt too, in all fifty states. You been out of civilization too long.

  13. Hello September 5, 2016 at 1:05 pm #

    Lullululul not every guy likes sex so much. Ridiculous to view others from your own point of view.

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